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A highly customized Seawind I is for sale on Yachtworld. They removed the mizzen mast and added a pilot house. Wonder if they increased the sail area of the main?

Given the asking price, they must think it's too quirky to sell easily. Maybe it's a starting point for someone's dream motorsailor?

Mark

Here's a link to the listing, and a picture.

That pilothouse is way too blocky and square, given the general roundness of the boat's design in the first place. Yuck.

Just a personal opinion of course. I bet the guy in the picture loves it!

Not to my taste though.

-Britton

'Jim never has to set a steadying sail since the of addition 2nd story mother-in-law suite'

Even if the value estimates of the 'upgrades' are too high, isn't it a little embarassing to be offering the boat for so much less? One man's folly, I guess.

Still I wonder how big that Yanmar is . . . ;-)

Mark

Is it just me, or does it strike anyone else that a 25 lb Danforth anchor for ground tackle seems a little light to be circumnavigating the globe with this boat?

Some people just seem to love those Danforths, and don't seem to realize that there are many other anchors that are far, far better for cruising!

Not to say that Danforths don't have their place: they do. But I think there are certainly better primary anchor choices--and the field seems to be growing.

Is it just me, or does it strike anyone else that a 25 lb Danforth anchor for ground tackle seems a little light to be circumnavigating the globe with this boat?

I bet the 25# Danforth is sized right for the boat. It is probably even a bit oversized. I think the charts for my boat (28 foot, ~8000#) call for a 13# Danforth (or was it 18#?).

That said, I think the Danforth is a pretty poor choice as a primary anchor when cruising.

-Britton

bcooke wrote: I think the charts for my boat (28 foot, ~8000#) call for a 13# Danforth (or was it 18#?).

All I can say to that size recommendation chart is, "HA!" (Though I know that your quote is accurate.)

I'm sure the 25# is the "recommended" size for that boat. The problem is more in the anchor design than the weight--just a poor all-around anchor choice, that's all.

13# Danforths are great for kedging, or lunch hooks. If one wants to have a chance of sleeping, well...

It's miserable hand-hauling a 35# CQR and 30 feet of 5/16" chain if the water depth is 20 feet or more, but I sure like knowing it's down there when the wind blows! I have 2 Danforths on board (one as a stern anchor), but they have yet to see the water.

Tim wrote:13# Danforths are great for kedging, or lunch hooks. If one wants to have a chance of sleeping, well...

It's miserable hand-hauling a 35# CQR and 30 feet of 5/16" chain if the water depth is 20 feet or more, but I sure like knowing it's down there when the wind blows! I have 2 Danforths on board (one as a stern anchor), but they have yet to see the water.

Oh good, the old "which anchor" discussion! My two cents worth is that the right anchor is two (different) anchors. It's a habit I acquired way back, and now it just feels right. Now I look at the the vast majority of people who swing on one anchor, and think how vulnerable they look.
Advantages: less swinging room, redundancy, diversification, less strain/chafe on each, better chance of resetting
Disadvantages: more work, more time, more mess, chance the rodes or anchors can foul each other

I set the first one in hard (the Bruce), then haul back up until the scope is about 2:1. The boat keeps moving forward a bit, then the wind blows me sideways, and I let go the second anchor (large Danforth) when I am reasonably well away from the first. I set it, with the first rode slack, then even them up, and back down on the two together.
The rodes end up about 60 degrees apart, with the secondary having not quite as much scope as the first. When it's time to go, I break out and haul the primary by hand, and get it all squared away. It's a bit lighter and quicker after that to sail or motor off the secondary.

I've rarely found that I'm only riding to one anchor the next day, and the only time I've had a tangle it was minor (and there was so little wind it didn't matter anyway). If there's a pronounced wind shift, I end up riding mostly to the windward anchor, of course. In this case, the second one becomes more of a safety (slack rode, but deployed in case of the first one dragging).

I like the Bruce because it resets better than a plow, and works in a wider variety of conditions. I use the Danforth because it was on the boat and I might as well get some use out of it. It's got a lot more holding power per pound than a plow, and also resets better, so I find it works out nicely as a secondary anchor.

By the way, I saw a pilothouse on an Alberg 30 two summers ago. It used up the whole cockpit, but it really did look right, as well as being very salty and practical in appearance. I couldn't help thinking that I'd prefer some fresh air and openness in the summer, but he was living aboard the boat and said he had no regrets.

I sailed a modified 42' ketch with the mizzen removed, boom extended by 15" and it sailed downwind like a dog - The huge auto-pilot worked so hard you hard to recharge the batteries too often. So would not consider such a modified boat again.

That Seawind has moved on to E-Bay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Allied-S ... ewItem[url][/url]