Cockpit Scuppers and Nonskid Teak Finish

[cliffg]

I want to install cockpit scuppers on my Kittiwake. It currently has holes that are abour 3/4 ID. with molded in nipple drain into the hull that is 3/4 also. I want to install them right with through hull fittings and seacocks. The cockpit is average size for a 23' boat so, I'm not sure 3/4" drains is sufficient. Can any of you point me to a source of scuppers? I've seen some that are 1 1/2" but that seems awfully big.

Next, I saw something about a teak finish that was nonskid, does anyone know of it?

[Tim]

Next, I saw something about a teak finish that was nonskid, does anyone know of it?

Yes: bare and untreated! :<)

[Tim]

Can any of you point me to a source of scuppers?

Hamilton Marine has some scupper fittings in their catalog.

Another source is Spartan Marine, which has nice bronze fittings. They have a 1" fitting that might interest you. Be sure you can find all the other fittings (sea valves, nipples, etc.) and hose you need in the same 1" size, though.

Tritons had a molded-in fitting in the cockpit that wasn't much bigger than 3/4" ID, though the tubes through the hull were larger. But I think it's wise and prudent to go larger on the size of your scuppers. 1" is a good compromise if you don't want the 1-1/2" fittings.

[cliffg]

I want to redo the steps down to the cabin, seemed to be a good solution.

[MikeD]

I saw something about a teak finish that was nonskid, does anyone know of it?

Do you mean a non-slip varnish?

Some of the folks on the Ariel Forum suggest this: Ultimate Sole
or this: Gymseal

[Tim]

Sorry to be a wise guy earlier!

Th e "Ultimate Sole" product has been discussed favorably on this forum before and is worth a look for what you're doing.

[Mike E]

Brass is Green, Teak is Grey Brass is Green Teak is Grey...especially when you are standing on it. Untreated is the correct and best answer.

If you really must treat it use Le Tonkinois with ASA or Anti Skid Additive or use Le Tonkinois on any teak surface that doesn't provide sure footing.

ASA is simply small granules of whatever you mix into the paint or varnish. It replaced ground up walnut shells which is another way of doing it but you have to make it yourself.

Michael
SV Se Langt

[Hirilondë]

I want to redo the steps down to the cabin, seemed to be a good solution.

I kept my original mahogany companionway stairs and replaced the plastic non-skid pads with strips of unfinished teak screwed in place. It makes for a great anti-skid treatment and it looks good too if I say so myself. When the time comes to varnish the ladder again I will just remove the teak pieces, varnish and resecure them again.



The top step shows in the lower left hand corner of the photo.

[Ceasar Choppy]

If your scupper drains are molded in, you may be restricted in size, unless you want to do some fancy FG work to the molded in part of the cockpit sole.

I upsized my 1.5" scuppers to 2" last year on my P-39. The problem was that the molded in part of the cockpit sole would only allow for the size flange you find on a 1.5" thru-hull fitting or scupper drain.

I was able to find some plastic scuppers from a SeaRay of all things ($5.00 each from a salvage place) and mill down the flange about 3/16" to make them fit. Bronze would have been nice, but they were all too big in the flange.

Turned out great! Except now they a big enough for a small child to fit through. If you've ever seen the ginormous cockpit on a P-39, however, you'll know why I upsized. I'll try and post a pic when I find it.

[Tim]

ginormous

That's one...

;<)