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Bayliner Buccaneer

Gee, that's going to be hard to live up to -- though I'm sure folks will rise to the occasion :-)

--- R.

I'd rather be seasick and yuking over the toerail and all over my toerail than look at that! BLAHHH.

Cheers,
Clint

Ummmm... what the heck is that boat doing? I see no persons, the motor is up out of the water, the sailcover is on, and she's trailing about 40 feet of bowline while she floats serenely in the middle of the slipway....

I've posted this before, but let's not forget our old favorite: the Dawson 26.

dasein668 wrote:Ummmm... what the heck is that boat doing? I see no persons, the motor is up out of the water, the sailcover is on, and she's trailing about 40 feet of bowline while she floats serenely in the middle of the slipway....

I wondered the same thing [about the Buccaneer], and decided that perhaps the owner was putting the boat up for sale and let the boat float out into the fairway to take a photo, intending to pull it back in afterwards with that line.

Hope it wasn't too windy...

--- R.

I have to say that the Dawson 26 looks like a Herreshoff in comparison to that Buccaneer...

I should add that, while they are disgustingly bad looking, at least Buccaneers are really poorly built, too, in the finest Bayliner tradition.

I also enjoy building small wood boats and like to study them. Hands down the ugliest little boat is Bolger's Micro.

http://www.boatdesign.com/micro/pages/micro3.htm

For comparison, here is s/v Fat Chance, the latest little boat I built. I think she is pretty salty looking. Guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

http://groups.msn.com/SandbarsandDriftw ... hotoID=220

Ooooh, that micro is bad

The Buc is worth another loving glance

Here's a honey. Reinell 26

One of our favorites

Now that is salty

Sweet

The new TES Yacht 32 "Dreamer"

Built in Poland, surprisingly enough

Coronado 35 "center cockpit"

Still love the Mac

OK, I've offended enough people for one day

windrose wrote:I also enjoy building small wood boats and like to study them. Hands down the ugliest little boat is Bolger's Micro.

http://www.boatdesign.com/micro/

You know, that Micro wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for that flat bow. What's up with that, anyway?

Otherwise, it almost has funky character.

I like the guy's fenders hanging over the sides too, it really adds to the look.

One of these came by me Saturday, up on plane, the guy at the helm was so proud..... I thought "Buddy, if you only knew......"

Buccaneers have a dedicated following.

http://www.geocities.com/buccaneersailboats/

MacGregors have been bashed more repeatedly than almost any other single brand. The people who buy and like them will defend them to the death. Their arguments are generally shallow and poorly constructed--much like the boats they seem to love. If the boat meets one's needs and desires, fine. No one can fault that. Just don't pretend they are anything other than what they are.

All anyone with half a spec of marine knowledge need do is step aboard one of these boats and the reality becomes clear. I like the spiffy helm console, myself.

Hey, Commander Pete,

Give someone else a chance, will you? ;-) Sheesh, where do you find those things?

I mean, the ugly-duckling home-builts are sort of understandable, but those wacky production boats -- where was the voice of reason in the design department: "Uh, Sam, that's lovely, but let's just tweak it a little here, and here, and .... here, shall we?"

Fun thread. Maybe a wee bit judgemental, but fun, darnit!

--- Rachel

I can't help it. It's like rubbernecking at a car wreck.

The quest for interior light and volume is behind most of these

The Mac 26M has wraparound sunglasses

Bock 21

If you love to hate the MacGregor you will really want to check out this guy's site... http://www.amasci.com/~mighetto/murrelet.htm

I recommend swallowing your drink before you do tho...

-- Eric

Re: Commanderpete's pic above of the Mac26 towing an inflatable....

Anyone else notice that the dinghy's engine is turned athwartships?

Almost makes you wish he put the throttle to the stops just after he clears that pier.......

Yhat Mac 26M has wraparound sunglasses could be the start of a new trend. From the angle of the photo, doesn't it look like the wheels are part of the boat?

Why have a boat that can just sail and power, why not eiminate the trailer entirely by having the wheels perminately attached along with a retractible trailer hitch in the bow?

Read this somewhere on the internet: there was a guy who had just bought a new powerboat and was taking it out for the first time, but just couldn't get the boat to go fast at all. He made his way back to the marina, and asked them to check it out. They too couldn't get it to go fast either, although the engine and everything else seemed to be working fine. So one of them dove under the boat to check the prop, and almost drowned because he came up laughing so hard. There was the trailer, still strapped to the boat....

And did you hear about the guy launching his trailer boat with his Hummer? Unlike everybody else at the ramp, he didn't back the trailer down... no he drove straight in, turned around out in the bay, floated the boat off, and then drove back out again. Proving that the Hummer is very good at doing exactly what he and everybody else buys them for -- calling attention to themselves...

I've actually SEEN a boat floating with the trailer under it.

A friend of mine bought a 19' Mako from a guy on long island, but didn't want to pay the insane ferry fee for the trailer, and wasn't about to consider going the long way around through the city, so he hooked on a couple of extra webstraps and went by water. Yeah, he's a little nuts, but it was one of those glassy calm mornings, and he wasn't fool enough to try to get the thing to go fast or anything. She rode a little down-by-the-bow, but man if you weren't looking for it, you wouldn't have guessed that anything was amiss. It was pretty comical, actually.

Another friend and I met him at the launch ramp on the CT side. Man it was one HUGE pain to get that trailer up far enough to hitch to the truck!
As he said.... "the lights and bearings were pretty much shot anyway, so I didn't think I had much to lose."

Figment wrote:I've actually SEEN a boat floating with the trailer under it.

A friend of mine bought a 19' Mako from a guy on long island, but didn't want to pay the insane ferry fee for the trailer, and wasn't about to consider going the long way around through the city, so he hooked on a couple of extra webstraps and went by water."

Now that's thinking outside the box! Ya gotta love it :-)

--- Rachel

catamount wrote:Read this somewhere on the internet: there was a guy who had just bought a new powerboat and was taking it out for the first time, but just couldn't get the boat to go fast at all. He made his way back to the marina, and asked them to check it out. They too couldn't get it to go fast either, although the engine and everything else seemed to be working fine. So one of them dove under the boat to check the prop, and almost drowned because he came up laughing so hard. There was the trailer, still strapped to the boat...

This story has been around forever. Recently Mythbusters re-enacted this very "myth." Results were amusing and pretty much as expected, but it did work.

Rachel wrote:
Now that's thinking outside the box! Ya gotta love it :-)

His logic was actually somewhat sound. He figured that trailering the boat over those friggin horrendous roads would put at least as much (if not more) of a beating on the boat as was likely via water. Sure it would've been prudent to have another boat tag along for the ride just in case, but when you're nineteen and bulletproof, such things don't come to mind.

It's things like this that make you look back with wonder at how you ever survived your childhood.

OK, here's my nomination:


This is an all steel boat (I mean, interior, tables, bunks and ALL!) being sold in my neck of the woods. Looks like an old submariner decided he could have the best of both worlds...Honestly, I can't imagine anyone wanting to buy it, (the builder died, thus, for sale..) but it's really something just to board it and check it out!

Ummm...OK Hester, I submit the following:

Salon from Companionway


Don't miss the beeaauutiful faded sort-of-aqua-green shade of the metal cockpit. Turns a lovely shade of Way-too-hot in the sunshine.


Oh, and we can't forget the first class galley!


OK, I gotta admit that's a wood chart table, and also there's a small bit of wooden ceiling over the bunk...

This is probably the nicest part of the boat (I was wrong about the bunks, they're partly wood)...although the rig is new, looks like it was taken off of another boat.


It's too bad there's no pics of the forepeak, that's where the head is.

I'm sure it's a wonderful boat in someone's eyes; at least the boat broker hopes so :-)

Tony-

I try to think that there's no such thing as a totally ugly boat(although you guys have plenty of proof I'm wrong).

However, how bad is this little beauty? I'd like to see more pics.

The McGregors and their outboadrs remind me of a sailboat I used to see all the time in Marblehead in the early '80's. She was owned, I believe, by an owner of and named after the Pioneer stereo company. As I remember, she was about 40', painted in vertical, gradually changing shades of grey and powered by one or was it two giant outboards. I think she had a retractable keel or centerboard. Anyway, she was not really unattractive. The neat part was she would come out to watch the races, sitting at a mark as we approached. The spectators would be having drinks etc as we rounded the mark then the skipper would open up the engine(s) and go roaring off to the next mark. Not sure just how fast she would go but from our persective in a 38' racing sloop, she sure could move. Pretty cool.

I've been trying to find a pic but maybe someone else will have better luck.

Commanderpete wrote:I can't help it. It's like rubbernecking at a car wreck.

The quest for interior light and volume is behind most of these

The Mac 26M has wraparound sunglasses

Actually, the powerboat mask is just paint. I have a buddy who had a 26X. He painted out the mask and the boat looked much better. He sold the boat to a guy in Mauritius who was in a Mac Club there. We towed it to Houston, put it in a container and waved farewell. ;)

How about...



The early Hunters weren't bad looking boats, but their recent stuff is kind of strange, although the interiors are interesting.



But then I guess asking a Triton guy to evaluate a modern looking boat is kind of a waste of time. :)

But then I guess asking a Triton guy to evaluate a modern looking boat is kind of a waste of time. :)

What are you talking about? We know all about modern boats! We have fiberglass hulls too, and that's modern enough!

#218 wrote:

But then I guess asking a Triton guy to evaluate a modern looking boat is kind of a waste of time. :)

What are you talking about? We know all about modern boats! We have fiberglass hulls too, and that's modern enough!

True to a certain extent, but keep in mind that the Triton is basically a wooden design done in fiberglass, so the lines are still classic, unlike some of the more modern designs done in fiberglass. That's why this is called "The Plastic Classic Restoration and Boatbuilding Forum". ;)

I hate being a boat snob, but man, those Hunters of the wavy-pink-green-graphics-vintage look just like (and might as well be) pool toys.

They could have done a better photoshop job too.

Here's another offering from TES Yachts, this one a 22 footer

This is what happens when the interior dictates the design of the boat. ;)

Clear the decks, prepare for action

The beach chair. The beach chair is definitely my favorite feature.

Some people really need to just get honest with themselves and buy a friggin powerboat already.

It's a good thing that they are on the Intercostal. They are sitting so low in the water, one good wave and they would be swamped.