SOMEone must be up to SOMEthing...

Post by **Tim** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 5:22 pm

OK, folks...

Somebody out there has to be up to something worth posting somewhere on this forum! It's deathly quiet out there. Did I miss a meteor strike or something?

I might possibly have something interesting to post tomorrow, but no promises. This sentence might be all you hear of it.

Post by **dasein668** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:07 pm

Oh, I might spill the beans! hehe

Figment · Post by **Figment** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:39 pm

Lemme guess..... someone staked a "For Sale" sign on Clapboard Island, and the Fed is about to hike the prime another quarter-point, so you figured there's no time like the present......

;)

Post by **dasein668** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:43 pm

Ugh. Don't I wish! Tim and I have already agreed that if the island comes up for sale we'll split it!

JetStream · Post by **JetStream** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:53 pm

It is pretty quiet. Boat shows can be nice though. I found out today that I won the Bose Wave Radio given out by Northrup Johnson at the Newport Brokerage Show. Its kind of worthless though. It doesn't have a mast and it doesn't float.

Post by **Tim** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:29 am

JetStream wrote:It doesn't have a mast and it doesn't float.

Sounds like most of the boats I look at!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 2:04 pm

This quiet is like the silence before the storm. The sailing season is ending. The building season is just beginning. All of us are making that final pause before squeezing the trigger on the sawz-all; thereby committing ourselves to another full winter trying to rebuild in six months what it took six minutes to hack apart.

-Britton

Post by **dasein668** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 7:41 pm

Anonymous wrote:The building season is just beginning. All of us are making that final pause before squeezing the trigger on the sawz-all
-Britton

Hey, some of us have already started! Time's a-wastin' folks!

bcooke · Post by **bcooke** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:11 am

Nice!

I am constantly amazed by the amount of money that is poured into a project boat. I have promised myself to get a job before I cut anything else apart- except maybe that freezer box - I really hate that thing. I still have a few weeks of putting together what I ripped out this spring. Then I have to think about the coming winter and my outside storage plans...

Besides, I need to keep you guys ahead of me so you can work out the problems before I get there!

-Britton

P.S. Funny thing is, I bought my boat in "sail-away" condition. I really should be half way to the Bahamas right now, not scrambling to get some holes covered and paint down before it gets too cold and the snow flies. I just can't leave that wrecking bar alone...

Post by **Tim** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:45 am

One you start, it's increasing harder to stop! Each new thing you do leads to several others...and so it goes.

Just get in the water for next season!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:01 pm

I promise :-)

Post by **dasein668** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 9:55 pm

He'll hold you to that Britton... even though you logged in as a guest to try to hide your identity!

bcooke · Post by **bcooke** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:19 am

Wish I could say I was being sneaky but.... I don't know how I wasn't logged in. You boat restorers may be crazy but you don't miss a thing do you.

I will have my boat in the water and at the NETA rendevous next summer. Mine will be the Triton with the chipped seasick green gelcoat, stained nonskid, crazed decks, corroded fittings, sagging lifelines, oxidixed mast (with bent jumpers) smoky/cantankerous engine and stained sails. Don't even think about looking inside. And I am going to tie up right next to YOU with the biggest grin on Casco bay. :-)

On the plus side my mast will be standing over a new step, solid glass core, and oversized laminated mast beam. The deck will be mostly solid with every fitting mounted through solid epoxy. The dressed up chainplates will be mounted to oversized and overglassed knees. An elephant will be able to do one handed handstands on the cabin sole while admiring the excellent access afforded by the beautiful Bomar aluminum hatch. And should anyone want to swim under the boat it will be sporting a smooth, blemish free, bottom coat with the leading edge of the keel re-repaired and ready to take on the biggest rocks in Maine. Boy this stuff is fun. I hope it never ends!

-Britton

Post by **Tim** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:04 am

bcooke wrote:And I am going to tie up right next to YOU with the biggest grin on Casco bay. :-)

There you go! Being in the water, cosmetics aside, is far more important in the scheme of things. Never should a boat-improvement project stand in the way of on-the-water time.

We'll let you alongside anytime. Well no, actually we won't: no more raft-ups for Nathan and I, sadly, all thanks to the a-hole who unkindly, ignorantly, and selfishly created the wake that damaged our spars a couple years ago. But we'll be pleased to be anchored nearby!

BTW, are you sticking with the name, or changing it? If so, what will she be called?

Post by **dasein668** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:17 am

bcooke wrote: Boy this stuff is fun. I hope it never ends!

Oh, don't you worry yourself about that one! hehe

Figment · Post by **Figment** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:27 am

bcooke wrote: An elephant will be able to do one handed handstands on the cabin sole while admiring the excellent access afforded by the beautiful Bomar aluminum hatch.

Now THAT'S the kind of imagery that keeps me coming back for more!

:D

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:33 pm

I know what you mean about rafting up and bad manners. Being scuffed up with bent jumpers, I would still be leary of getting too close. Even a quiet place like long cove in Vinalhaven we could (and I have) find a grumpy lobster boat making a high wake circuit at 5 a.m. (most lobstermen and women are nice, a few, less so...) As for the name I have not contemplated any changes yet. She has been "Prudence" for quite a while and it seems an appropriate reminder for me. Early on she appears to have been called "Grifkin". I am not sure what that means, if anything. I will decide before I awlgrip her (about 2-3 years at this point). As Nathan so readily points out I have a ways to go yet!

Yeah, I am quite proud of the elephant imagery myself :-) I am also quite proud of my smooth shiny cockpit sole that no longer flexes which each step. Unfortunately, the sole is making the rest of the cockpit look pretty bad. And thus it goes...

-Britton

Post by **Tim** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:30 pm

Actually, while I was in Long Cove this very year, there were several lobster boats in and out, a couple of which seemed to make a point of traveling the length of the cove at high speed.

You think you're safe in a quiet cove, and then some lowlife speeds through. Sadly, there's just no way to know when it might happen. Most waves don't even present a problem to a raft-up, but when the circumstances line up just right--like they did to us at Islesboro--watch out!

Unfortunately, this now means that, in order to be sure of no damage, no rafting may occur. It's too bad, because it's fun.

bcooke · Post by **bcooke** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 12:03 pm

Good God Nathan! I just checked your website and according to the first photo on the page it seems the damage is going well beyond decks and hull... Are you sure you want to do all that this winter? Is Tim cracking the whip somewhere behind you? I hope you plan on keeping your website updated. Curious minds want to know...

-Britton

Post by **dasein668** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 5:58 pm

Yeah, well its one of those things.... If I'm going to do the decks I want to remove the icebox access in the cockpit, so, new icebox is a necessity. As far as the engine goes, thats not a big deal. I planned to pull it and give it a once over anyway, plus clean out the bilge. (I just got home from that LOVELY chore...)

Also, we gave the decks a pretty thorough going-over with mallet and moisture-meter. There is no sign of delam anywhere. It is definitely wet in a few places, but still very solid. The short of this is: no complete recore?just spot repairs as necessary, so its mostly just prep and paint for the exterior.

And yes, Tim is definitely cracking the whip! hehe Actually he was very helpful in all the destructo-stuff. What with getting ready to leave on his trip etc he wasn't really digging in to any major projects so he spent a couple of days working on my boat with me.

Website will be getting updated. Its currently in the process of getting redesigned, so no real updates for a bit. Going forward I intend the site to be more Blog-style, with lots of short updates. I'll still be putting together detailed articles, but more at completion of major stages.

LastMango · Post by **LastMango** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 6:49 pm

Nathan,

When you redo the icebox will you be putting in a new one? I've been on the hunt for a new ice box and haven't found a decent supplier yet. Nobody down here wants to sell iceboxes, only fridges or coolers.

Post by **dasein668** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 10:01 pm

I'm going to be building my own, similar to the one that Tim installed on Glissando. Glissando's Icebox

LastMango · Post by **LastMango** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 10:41 pm

shoot.. and I thought I had been over his site well enough to have noticed that, guess not. Thanks for the link.

In my whole time-vs-money issue I still think I'd rather buy one although finding one has proven to be pretty difficult.

Do you plan on adding any type of drainage to yours? I noticed Tim did not. My current ice box drains into a "Y" fitting in the sink drain. I guess with your icebox location you can't really do that, although you could probably run a 3/8" hose from a seacock mounted in the ice box and have it drain into the bilge.

One of my friends has a non-draining icebox in his boat and he always ends up leaving a bit of water in it which, IMHO, added to a funky smell coming from it :) :)

Post by **dasein668** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 1:35 am

Yes, I'll be installing a drain. The drain will run to a sump?I don't want any potentially funky water running into the bilge. I'm also planning to glass in supports for a wire shelf on the curved (hull) side.

Tim on the road · Post by **Tim on the road** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:46 pm

The man without the drain...

Definitely do whatever is necessary to put in an icebox drain! That was one of my biggest mistakes in my restoration of Glissando. It's worked out OK, but never again would I ignore such an important detail. At the time, I thought that I would figure something out later. Yeah, right. That's impossible, I found out. So I'm stuck with an annoying pump for my icewater.

Next time, I'll do better!

Tim