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I picked up a new "old" boat. It needs a paint job and im looking for suggestions

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my old boat is on the left. I painted it 2 years ago and am very happy with how it looks. The new boat was too cheap to pass up so i had to save it. I'm looking for a new paint scheme and want some opinions

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it will be dry sailed so i can strip the bottom to bare gelcoat or paint with a hard bottom paint. im leaning to the VC offshore as it can be burnished and I hear it isnt chalky when out of the water.
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so that gives me 4 options white, black, blue or red.

the hull will be painted with either perfection

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or interthane

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I'll do a boot stripe but not a cove stripe

I've had really good luck with interlux and would like to stick with what i know. it goes on with a foam roller and looks great. I dont have spray equipment.

So before i spend $300 on paint i figure id see what you all think makes a attractive paint combo on this style boat.

Thanks

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Wow. This is a toughie, primarily because I REALLY think you hit the nail on the head with the boat on the left. Nice work.

My gut reaction is white bottom, grey topsides, blue accents.
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Figment wrote:Wow. This is a toughie, primarily because I REALLY think you hit the nail on the head with the boat on the left. Nice work.

My gut reaction is white bottom, grey topsides, blue accents.
Wow! I like the way you think. I allready have that scheme tagged for this...

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The white will be platinum, dark grey or silver, green will be white and a bright blue pinstripe will seperate them.

Thanks for the compliment on the yellow as i really worked hard on that one. here is the other boat

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Its a woodie and the color is sage by benjamin moore!
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On the yellow boat here is what i started with

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it was free because of this

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that lead to...

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Heres my favorite picture

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She was at the strictly sail show in Philly

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The new boat was too cheap to pass up so i had to save it.
TWO OF THE SAME BOAT, NOWS THAT'S OBSESSED ( I must admit that I almost did that but I figured my wife would kill me, especially after I bought the same boat twice.)
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I'm a sick sick man but we rescued the boat to keep it racing. I have sold the yellow boat and it is going to be moving clubs but continue racing.

we have 20 mariners at our club and 2 other local fleets have close to 20 as well. The mariner with over 4000 boats represents a cheap alternative to a new boat. most race boats were 2-3K and can be competitive at $600 per year. thats sails every 3rd season and $150 per year to fix stuff.

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I'm a sick sick man but we rescued the boat ...
check out my new website, you'll appreciate it!

www.pearsonrenegade.com

click on other projects then click the surfhunter link ( yea I know its messed up I am going to fix it)
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Your previous choice of Fighting Lady Yellow seems to indicate that you like interesting colors. That combination looks great on the Mariner, by the way, and, frankly, may be hard to top! On the new boat, I'd have some fun with the paint if it were me. Of the colors available in your paint choices, I'd suggest red for the topsides.

If you wanted the VC offshore bottom, the only color that works at all with red is the black, which could look OK if separated with a white boot. (Normally I dislike black bottoms.)

The problem with red is that to make a bootop stand out, it almost has to be white. Darker colors that might look good with the red up close simply get lost from a distance and ruin the look. If you like the look of white bottom with white boottop (with strip of red between, of course), that might be interesting too, and suitable for a racing class boat.

Then again, you could go black on the topsides, bright red stripe, and white bottom. The red may not contrast that well with the black from a distance, but it would look nice up close.

Black and green go well together too, but that green would never stand out against black. A neon green would be cool as a boottop with a black hull, though. If you're drysailing, you might be able to broaden your paint choices for the boottop.

Somehow, whatever the actual color choice, that Mariner just cries out for something bold and fun--something to stand out in a sea of boring whites and grays.

With the more classic, staid designs that I own, I do feel a bit limited in terms of what colors and combinations are appropriate, and therefore crave an opportunity--even a vicarious opportunity--to liven things up. I have a couple crazy ideas for paint and names that would be appropriate on small racy-type boats, should I ever get myself a small one design or something.
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cfretz wrote: I have sold the yellow boat and it is going to be moving clubs but continue racing.
That changes everything!

I'd do the fighting lady yellow again, and this time paint a sheer stripe (not a cove stripe) in the same dark color as the boot to give that sheerline some punch.

Really, even if you still had the yellow boat, I'd be tempted to do the same paintjob and start Team Yellowboat.

For alternative color schemes, I'd hunt around for pics of Ensigns. What looks good on an ensign should look good on a Meridian, and there seem to be a LOT of ensign owners out there with adventurous colors.
One in particular that I'm thinking of has a deep dark eggplant purple color with grey accents.
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Any particular reason you listed only Perfection and Interthane? Why not go to an automotive paint supplier...

Skies the limit. Metallics, candys, custom mixes. Go to something like Orange County Choppers for some inspiration.
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Post by Jason K »

I really like flag blue topsides with a white bootstripe and bottom. There's an Ensign and a Rhodes 19 that are sailed out of SYC with that color scheme and they look sharp. Also, like Tim, I'm a fan of the red topsides with a white bootstripe and bottom.

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dasein668 wrote:Any particular reason you listed only Perfection and Interthane? Why not go to an automotive paint supplier...

Skies the limit. Metallics, candys, custom mixes. Go to something like Orange County Choppers for some inspiration.
I dont have spray equipment so roll and tip is fine. Also i'm trying to show other mariner owners that this is something you can do yourself. If i end up painting a few more of these ill make the investment and go to spray.

tim, great suggestions thanks

figment, the yellow is taken and ill have to race with the boat often. we have to do something new and just as sharp.

I'm leaning towards red. reason is the name... "she devil" Its bad luck to change the name. Im seeing the "L" as a pitchfork. however i could do the name in red on any color...

I appreciate the suggestions so keep them coming.

jpmathieu, Nice mariner! have you been to http://www.usmariner.org? There is a ton of info on these boats. we dont race the keel model because there arent many of them. If you need to replace the ribs dont get the wood rib kit from stuart. you can glass over foam and it will be stronger and easier. I've sailed a rhodes 19 with the keel and it was sweet. A C/B will be faster though.
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check out my new website, you'll appreciate it!

www.pearsonrenegade.com
I've tried to view your website using forefox 2.0. it loads the main page, then replaces it with a blank page that say I have to enable javascripts. Javascripts is enabled in my firefox options.

Just thought you might want to know.
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these are nice combos
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Post by Summersdawn »

I could see the boat in a deep, red wine colour. Unfortunately, I don't see that colour listed with Perfection or Interthane.
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Post by Tim »

I just want to point out how critical the slim white stripe is on this blue hull with the red boottop. Without the white stripe, the red would get lost from any distance. With the white stripe, the red jumps right out.

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Of course I'm a big fan of dark blue boats. I just thought the Mariner might call out for something a bit more wild and different.

There are many, many nice combinations for color. It comes down to how limited you are by the choice of paint brand or type.
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Post by Tim »

If you want to branch out into other types of paint, Claret is a nice deep red color that could be nice on the Mariner.

I used Claret on this O'Day Daysailer. It's still a unique color.

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one of the guys at the mariner site was nice enough to show me some possibilities.

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I'm leaning towards the red with the white bottom. I really like the black/blue but i just dont think i have the time to do the extra prep a black hull requires.
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I vote for the red with the white bottom. That's a nice look, and the black stripe looks better than I might have imagined.

A slim gold gove stripe might dress things up just that little bit more!
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well i started painting today.

Settled on a product called signature finish. one of the guys i sail with used it about 8 years ago and his black finish still looks great. its designed to be rolled and tipped so thats right up my alley

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here is all the details of the project
http://www.usmariner.org/XYZ/viewtopic. ... 01&start=0

Stay Tuned....
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Post by Figment »

Cool stuff.

What was the genesis of the bow eye? Trailering convenience?
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The boat is dry stored at a club and launched via crane to floating docks. There isnt enough room unless you rig and derig bow in. a bow eye tends to get hung up on the edge of the dock.

we'll have to see how this is going to work.
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decks are done and 1st coat is on the hull.

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Post by Figment »

Is that a battery hoist holding up the stern?!!

Haven't seen one of those in a while.

First coat? That's one nice looking first coat.
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its a bumper jack.
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