I bought one

Harry James · Post by **Harry James** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:31 pm

I had made an offer on a Triton (455) in Juneau that needed a lot of work, the biggest deal being a deck recore. My offer was not accepted. While looking through ebay offerings and deciding that I didn't want to bid on the 1916 Herreshoff NY 40 that was pushing $300,000 I discovered item 4587719595 a 1960 west coast Triton that has had extensive work and doesn't need a lot more. If you go to ebay and enter the number you can see it.

My son is going to go up from Camp Pendelton this weekend and take posession I hope.

Now I am in for it, I have to get it out of the water and on the Hard remotely and then I have to figure out how to get it to Juneau.

The bids to transport to Seattle are running around $3000 and then I would have the barging costs from there to here.

My best shot I think is to get it on a trailer and tow it up with a rented SUV. I wouldn't have to worry about a cradle for the barge.

Anybody have a trailer for sale in Southern CA that can handle a Triton?

Anybody got any words that will calm me down.

catamount · Post by **catamount** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:44 pm

You don't want to try to sail it up?

Maybe you could hire a delivery skipper to sail it up for you?

OK, maybe the trailer is your best bet. I wonder if U-Haul (or any similar outfit) rents utility trailers of adequate capacity? Hmmmm... http://www.uhaul.com/guide/?equipment=autotransport shows Auto Transport Vehicle Trailers with a max load capacity of 4000 lbs...

Regards,

bcooke · Post by **bcooke** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:29 pm

Congratulations. Take deep breaths. The boat is fine, you will find a solution when you need it, it will be fun.

The weather is against you now but I would really consider the delivery captain option unless you really need it close by this winter. Pay winter storage and then have someone bring it up next spring. $2000 winter storage+ $200 a day for a skipper for say 20 days... = $4000. I think these numbers are excessively high but even this worse case scenario would be cheaper and easier than trucking it up.

The hills and mountains of northern California and southern Oregon are goiong to be a killer on an SUV pulling an 8000+ pound Triton and trailer. I don't know what kind of sellers market you would have for Triton sized trailer might be hard to sell once you got there. You know barging costs better than me but I imagine we are talking in the low four figures here.

Just my two cents. Ah... the thrill of boat ownership :-)

-Britton

bcooke · Post by **bcooke** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:29 pm

Congratulations. Take deep breaths. The boat is fine, you will find a solution when you need it, it will be fun.

The weather is against you now but I would really consider the delivery captain option unless you really need it close by this winter. Pay winter storage and then have someone bring it up next spring. $2000 winter storage+ $200 a day for a skipper for say 20 days... = $4000. I think these numbers are excessively high but even this worse case scenario would be cheaper and easier than trucking it up.

The hills and mountains of northern California and southern Oregon are goiong to be a killer on an SUV pulling an 8000+ pound Triton and trailer. I don't know what kind of sellers market you would have for Triton sized trailer might be hard to sell once you got there. You know barging costs better than me but I imagine we are talking in the low four figures here.

Just my two cents. Ah... the thrill of boat ownership :-)

-Britton

bcooke · Post by **bcooke** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:31 pm

hmmm... poor editing. I was trying to say that buying a trailer and then selling it might be expensive. Finding one to rent that fits would be difficult...

Harry James · Post by **Harry James** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:06 pm

I want a trailer anyway, so I can park it the front yard and work on it. Get a lot more done than down at the docks. There is a shortage of sailboat trailers, I am pretty sure I can rent one out when I get it back here plus selling it would be easy.

In water delivery South to North on the west coast is very hard. Sailing, the best way to get to where I am is go to Hawaii and the circle around the Pacific High to Sitka and then on to Juneau. I can take enough time off to get the boat through the road system but I wouldn't be able to get off until late June to get it back deep water and that is too late in the season.

The barge company mandates that the boat be on a trailer (I just found that out) and it has to be on a trailer to get it on the ferry of course.

Cheapest dollar outlay is to have it delivered to Seattle and then bring it up the Inland passage next June.

The cheapest way is

Post by **Tim** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:09 pm

Harry,

Congratulations! Good luck with the boat.

The logistics of your move sound too complicated and foreign for me to really comment on; you know your ultimate budget, and what is required to get the boat to Juneau. A rental trailer will be a tough trick; it's not something you really see.

This guy built a basic trailer for his Cape Dory 28 out of a simple utility trailer. The trailer is for sale...too bad it's in Florida. But maybe you can get some trailer ideas here. The trailer is nothing special, and I don't really like the looks of it, but it seems to work.

http://www.sbastro.com/FeNIX/Projects/trailer.htm

bcooke · Post by **bcooke** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:18 pm

I forgot about those south flowing currents you have there. Swinging by Hawaii might be nice but perhaps a little ambitious on a new boat.

-Britton

windrose · Post by **windrose** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:38 am

Harry CONGRATULATIONS! Now the fun begins.

I bought a tubular steele cradle for $400 then I took a backhoe trailer and modified it by simply putting on some removeable angel iron braces that bolted to the trailer so that the cradle could be secured the trailer. Then the boat and cradle was able to be removed and the trailer was sold. I actually made a small amount of money on the deal. I pulled it with a Ford F350 super duty diesal.... it isn't the pulling, it is the stopping. You gotta have a beefy truck, there must be plenty of those in Alaska.

Buy a used one, move the boat and sell the whole rig and recover the $$ you would spend on the transport. You don't need any special permits because the boat is within the legal width of highway driving.

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:02 pm

Congratulations Harry, PM me I use to own this boat and have some stuff on her you will want, a couple of surveys and her documentation (she is documented under the name Kolokea so she doesn't need a state registration number). You will also want to get on to the NTA site (http://www.tritonclass.org) and have them change the owner name in the Tritons Afloat section (http://www.tritonclass.org/mir/94ta.html)

Welcome to the club! :)

Harry James · Post by **Harry James** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:29 pm

Having been steered towards the ramblings comment on this boat by a member (thank you Britton) I see that I did not know the rest of the story!!

I think however that 6k is probably a reasonable price considering what has been done to the boat already.

I had already set up for a surveyor to take a quick look at the boat before I committed to the full amount, I can give him a clue at what to look for.

Probably should have put some questions out on this site before leaping.

For the good news, I have already gotten one good lead on a trailer.

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:27 pm

Sent you some more info by PM.

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:06 pm

The Uhaul car-hauler isn't an option for a Triton. I used one to move my 25' hull and deck, and it overhung 6' aft and 3' forward. The trailer's too short. I'd go for a used construction trailer (for a tractor or something) and build a cradle. As was said before, you'll need something bigger than an SUV, probably an F250 or better (or equiv).

It might be a good idea to ask around the construction companie(s) where you are in AK. If they are bringing a deadload trailer up from somewhere via the ferry, maybe you could work something out?

Good luck!