Paint - quantity and cost

David VanDenburgh · Post by **David VanDenburgh** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:18 pm

Tim and Nathan,

Do you guys know how much paint and primer you used when you painted Dasein's (a) topsides and (b) decks? I'm trying to get an idea of the materials and expense involved in doing a similar job.

Thanks for taking the time.

David

Post by **Tim** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:03 am

Primer: about a gallon and a half total (three coats, hull and deck, with two different primer colors)

Topcoat: 1-2 quarts for the topsides, and the same or less for the deck (not including nonskid).

These amounts are for unmixed product and don't include extensions from reducers and converters. For brush, the mix is typically 2 parts topcoat to one part converter (1:1 for primer); spray topcoats are mixed 1:1.

Post by **dasein668** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 6:42 pm

Tim's numbers seem to match my recollection. As for nonskid, I'm pretty sure I used about two quarts plus beads and flattening agent.

David VanDenburgh · Post by **David VanDenburgh** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:53 pm

Thanks guys for your responses. I've been reading through the Glissando site and Dasein site again, and that paint sure looks pretty. Awfully tempting. It certainly is no small time investment, though. I admire your determination and discipline - Nathan, 250 hours of work on Dasein's decks! Phew!

Thanks again. And thanks for your detailed sites - truly helpful...and fun!

David

Post by **Tim** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:19 am

Doing a good refinishing job on a deck requires a lot of time. There are no shortcuts.

Things like removing and replacing hardware take up a large portion of the time. Sanding is what it is, and if you have gelcoat decks in good condition the sanding really isn't that bad, or that time consuming. Removing old paint or multiple fairing/repair/fairing steps are what tend to take the most time. If you don't have the need for repairs of the sort that Nathan did, or the typical recore or other deck-related repairs, your time investment will be less than that 250 hour figure.

Still, getting this job done takes determination and a significant dollup of time. The job could easily stretch over an entire summer of partial weekends if one wasn't sufficiently driven to power through the job in more concentrated bursts. Other commitments must bend to allow timely completion of a major job like preparing and repainting the deck in a quality fashion, particularly when one is working outside or in a temporary building that leaves the work susceptible to the vagaries of Mother Nature.

Are your thoughts about your Alberg 30 project, or the CD 36?

David VanDenburgh · Post by **David VanDenburgh** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:09 am

Tim wrote:Are your thoughts about your Alberg 30 project, or the CD 36?

I'm almost too embarrassed to say. I keep reading your sig line, "It's not how many ideas you have, it's how many you make happen," and I feel like a total toad. I've had the A30 for two years now and I've made remarkably little progress. I know on my site I entertained notions of the whole project as a sort of Thoreauvian exercise, but the truth is I'm anxious to get it done.

Anyway, I was working on a project list - a sort of wishlist - and crunching numbers. I'd love to redo the Alberg 30's decks and topsides, but even with enough in the budget I don't think I can afford the time. And like you said, without a proper shelter I can't afford to dally. The other issue, of course, is whether or not the work would be justified by the return. I'm inclined to think so - my labor's darn cheap - but I don't have any experience on which to base that assumption.

To answer your question directly: the Alberg 30; however, it would be nice to have the experience when the time comes to paint Ariel.

David