That's right. I'm coming up with project after project that I might or might not get to tackle this winter. I had another thought. (run away!!!)
Call me the laziest man on earth, but I'm getting tired of ducking below every ten minutes for beverages.
I need to build an icebox in the cabin/galley.
I also need to build hinged-seat lazarette access into the cockpit seats.
Would I be nuts to build a small hinged-seat-access icebox in the aft portion of the port side cockpit seat? Just big enough for a 12-pack and a bag of ice?
I think I might be nuts. I just went to all of that trouble to eliminate the original ice hatch from the bridge deck. It seems like I'd have to be nuts to go and cut a new one now.
A daysailing icebox?
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Well, whether or not you're nuts doesn't hinge entirely upon this question! heheFigment wrote:Would I be nuts to build a small hinged-seat-access icebox in the aft portion of the port side cockpit seat? Just big enough for a 12-pack and a bag of ice?
If the cockpit icebox is important to you, then build it, I say. The beauty of project boats is the ability to customize your own to suit specific, if not universal, needs.
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I'll probably find the answer if I search old Figment posts, but how come your Triton doesn't have cockpit seat hatches...kinda thought that was standard?
Go for it, and insulate the devil out of it.
I may do something similar. I've been using a space-hogging 70 qt Igloo in the cabin and a little lunchmate in the icebox all summer because the bridgedeck icebox on my Tartan 27 is worthless. 3 7lb bags lasted exactly one overnight (10pm to 8am) in the icebox. 2 bags last 48 hours in the Igloo. An icebox inches from the engine...good grief, Charlie Britton!
Then again, you could just throw a well-insulated portable into your reborn cockpit lockers, with the added advantage that what's left of the 12 pack can now be transported for Dinghy-ing Under the Influence.
On the subject of icebox relocation, might there be a worthwhile advantage to building an icebox with as much surface area against the underwater hull as possible? Obviously you'd still insulate this side, and it'd be awkwardly low--haven't thought about location & geometry yet--but I figure seawater is cooler than any other possible adjacent mass: cabin air, engine heat, sun-heated bridgedeck, sun-heated topsides, etc. Something like Dan Spurr's triton icebox...anyone done the physics on this or have an intuitive idea of the energy savings?
Go for it, and insulate the devil out of it.
I may do something similar. I've been using a space-hogging 70 qt Igloo in the cabin and a little lunchmate in the icebox all summer because the bridgedeck icebox on my Tartan 27 is worthless. 3 7lb bags lasted exactly one overnight (10pm to 8am) in the icebox. 2 bags last 48 hours in the Igloo. An icebox inches from the engine...good grief, Charlie Britton!
Then again, you could just throw a well-insulated portable into your reborn cockpit lockers, with the added advantage that what's left of the 12 pack can now be transported for Dinghy-ing Under the Influence.
On the subject of icebox relocation, might there be a worthwhile advantage to building an icebox with as much surface area against the underwater hull as possible? Obviously you'd still insulate this side, and it'd be awkwardly low--haven't thought about location & geometry yet--but I figure seawater is cooler than any other possible adjacent mass: cabin air, engine heat, sun-heated bridgedeck, sun-heated topsides, etc. Something like Dan Spurr's triton icebox...anyone done the physics on this or have an intuitive idea of the energy savings?
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Early model Tritons have these useless little drop-board access things for under-seat storage. Jhenson is in the middle of a really nice job of converting to hinged seats. His are the posts you should search.
My intuition on the physics of the below-waterline cooler performance tells me that seawater is cooler, but it's also a much better conductor, particularly when it's flowing.
Anyone here watch Alton Brown on the food network? He did an interesting thing once to explain/demonstrate convection. On the hottest day of the summer, go to the ice cream stand and get a nice big doubledip cone. Now sit in your car in the sun with all the windows closed. It'll be about 110 degrees in the car, but you'll be able to eat the ice cream with no trouble. On a cold day, go get the same ice cream cone, but this time drive around town with the windows down and lots of cold air moving through the car. The ice cream will be melting down your hand faster than your licking can keep up because the moving air, while much colder, transfers heat much more effectively than the stagnant hot air.
a small portable cooler has it's advantages. I'm really only entertaining this idea because I'm going to be cutting up the seats anyway.
My intuition on the physics of the below-waterline cooler performance tells me that seawater is cooler, but it's also a much better conductor, particularly when it's flowing.
Anyone here watch Alton Brown on the food network? He did an interesting thing once to explain/demonstrate convection. On the hottest day of the summer, go to the ice cream stand and get a nice big doubledip cone. Now sit in your car in the sun with all the windows closed. It'll be about 110 degrees in the car, but you'll be able to eat the ice cream with no trouble. On a cold day, go get the same ice cream cone, but this time drive around town with the windows down and lots of cold air moving through the car. The ice cream will be melting down your hand faster than your licking can keep up because the moving air, while much colder, transfers heat much more effectively than the stagnant hot air.
a small portable cooler has it's advantages. I'm really only entertaining this idea because I'm going to be cutting up the seats anyway.